There continues to be controversy concerning pox vaccination. Some fanciers feel that their birds typically pick up pox from vaccinated birds in their club, etc. Some wish to ban vaccination so that the vaccinated birds do not infect unvaccinated ones. The vaccine virus can cause infection that will spread to other young birds. The longer the scabs last, the longer the virus is available for spread. The virus can live in scab material for some months.
It seems to me that this deprives a fancier of his right to keep his bird's disease free. Granted, the vaccinated birds will be contagious for a while. A better choice, in my opinion, is requiring that any vaccination should be done at least two months before the race season; by then they should not still be a threat of contagion. I think that if there is a chance that the birds could contract pox during the race season, a fancier should have the prerogative to protect his birds by vaccinations.
Now, if that area NEVER has natural pox, and sees pox only when someone vaccinates, this is a different story. I wasn't sure that there are areas like that but have been told that there were. If the birds cannot contract pox naturally then there is no need to vaccinate. It seems, that with birds being shipped here and there, that if a newly acquired young bird, from outside the area, would break with pox, then they would be in a world of hurt with unvaccinated flocks of youngsters. I also think that everyone should vaccinate in self-defense, to be safe.
To me the best answer is to require that no one vaccinates for pox within 2 (or even longer) months before YB race season. Also, it might be good idea to exclude younger young birds, which missed the vaccination, from a vaccinated loft, from being shipped. These birds could keep the virus, of vaccine origin, propagating, and could be a source of infection.
The more you think about it, the more complicated it gets.
I always vaccinated in July for our races which start in September. By then, I believe that there was no trace of virus in my birds; and that they could be commingled with no threat to anyone's unvaccinated birds. If anyone's race birds start popping up with pox during the season, from spending night out and roosting with feral pigeons, then I didn't need to worry about mine contracting it. If there is any work to show that vaccinated birds can carry live virus for more than two months post-vaccination, I do not know about it.
The 3 birds arrived this morning in Aurora, Colorado safe and sound. Thanks. We'll do business again!!
Hello. We received the two boxes today with the four Hansenne pigeons. Arrived in excellent condition.
She is SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL! Thank you guys for looking out for me. Can’t say enough about how much I love the bird and birds you have sent me.
Thank you so much, i got the bird! He's so beautiful, pin tail apple body, nice wing :)
Hello there, My name is Mike and live in Az, I had racing pigeons when I was young and now Im not young haha 61, Semi retired and determined to move to a place where I can fly birds again, want to get my grandkids involved. Anyway as a kid I flew some Sions and really enjoyed your website. When Im ready would love to get a few Sions again and see how they do. Any advice for an old newbie? lol
Hey Donnie, Saw your Birds on Ipigeon and must say, those are some Beautiful Heitzmans. They are very true to what I called the real thing. Beautiful Hansennes as well. Take Care, Chuck
Hi
I have placed the pigeon recieved from you recently in a priority express shipment back to you in same box recieved. Bird was beautiful and healthy but we realized it’s nature is such that it needs to fly and be a racing pigeon. We can’t offer that life to it and realize it was a mistake to try this based on our situation
Bird has had not been outside and has been confined indoors in isolation since recieved.
Please give it the home it deserves.
Appreciate the care you took getting it to us!!!
Need some color on my team. Had some sion couple years ago when i had a partner who sick and could not care for his own birds. He liked sions so i bought some from you on pigeonauction.com. We alot of fun his sions against my team .He has since past on. His family called me and thanked me for letting fly with me he really looked forward race day. HE WON EVERY WEEK
Path: https://www.clayhavenfarms.com/pigeons/for-sale
Thank you guys so much for allowing me the opportunity to love these birds.
Thanks again for the most beautiful Pure Paul Sions pigeons ever!! The loft is full of happy sounds from the birds strutting around in their new home. Y’all were so easy to work thru my problems of birds I chose.
Thanks a million times over Pam and Donnie. Your friend Jimi
Good evening
What a surprised New Year’s gift from you guys
I received the very nice young pure white hansennes hen this pm.
I was not aware that you sent her already/
Thanks for sending 12046
I really like her.
Please keep me posted when you have bastins availabe
Wishing you a safe, healthy and prosperous New Year.
Thanks so much
I received the birds this morning.
As I expected, they are all very pretty and healthy.
I need a nice sion cock to pair up with my almost white hen.
I believed, I inquired a white splash white sion cock,
Not sure if he is still available, trying to breed out pure white sions
From your loft.
The Hansenne cock, very handsome, pls keep me posted for a solid
White hen. The hen very beautiful, can’t
Wait what they will yield.
Thanks so much
